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		<title>By: CLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought I would weigh in here, as I&#039;m a physician and a user of both Bare Essentials &amp; Mary Kay mineral powder foundations.

I&#039;m an internist &amp; pediatrician, board certified in internal medicine, pediatrics and adult infectious diseases.  Having said that, I&#039;m not a pulmonologist, but I am very aware of pulmonary disease.

Talc is associated with cancer but rarely ever causes it in adults because, as others have stated, the mechanism of cancer formation is via INHALATION (you have to breathe in the talc.) Nobody routinely breathes in enough of any of these powders (baby powder included) to get cancer. [An aside, you&#039;d get very ill from breathing in the powder (in lieu of &quot;air&quot;) before you would ever get cancer.] With regard to endometrial cancers from talc: these are seen when talc is somehow inserted into the abdominal or peritoneal cavities, as talc is quite irritating. 

In medicine, we actually take advantage of this quality of talc and intentionally use it in situations where we want two surface to adhere, such as in the pleural space in the chest. Pulmonologists will inject talc into the pleural space when a patient has a problem of reaccumulating fluid there (this is called &quot;pleurodesis.&quot;)

The bottom line: there are many agents that would be a problem if you inhaled them, but are just fine if you put them on your skin.  The most significant agent I can think of in this category is water. It is easy to fall into &quot;purist&quot; ways of thinking, but it is quite difficult to actually live this way, and sometimes even impractical. With my knowledge of malignancy and talc, I have no fear of putting talc on my skin.

Regarding the makeup, I have used both.  I am in my late 30&#039;s and have begun to accumulate wrinkles around my eyes. I have been a strict proponent of good skin care for years &amp; am loyal to the Philosophy line. I am quite partial to the Mary Kay foundation because it accumulates in the eye wrinkles less and has longer staying power.  I also do not use a cover powder--I use only the $18 mineral makeup, and I&#039;m good for the day. I found the Bare Escentuals to look like a cake on my face and be much more difficult to buff with the brush.  I suspect that the talc may be what makes the difference between the two products, as the post above suggests. 

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought I would weigh in here, as I&#8217;m a physician and a user of both Bare Essentials &amp; Mary Kay mineral powder foundations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an internist &amp; pediatrician, board certified in internal medicine, pediatrics and adult infectious diseases.  Having said that, I&#8217;m not a pulmonologist, but I am very aware of pulmonary disease.</p>
<p>Talc is associated with cancer but rarely ever causes it in adults because, as others have stated, the mechanism of cancer formation is via INHALATION (you have to breathe in the talc.) Nobody routinely breathes in enough of any of these powders (baby powder included) to get cancer. [An aside, you'd get very ill from breathing in the powder (in lieu of "air") before you would ever get cancer.] With regard to endometrial cancers from talc: these are seen when talc is somehow inserted into the abdominal or peritoneal cavities, as talc is quite irritating. </p>
<p>In medicine, we actually take advantage of this quality of talc and intentionally use it in situations where we want two surface to adhere, such as in the pleural space in the chest. Pulmonologists will inject talc into the pleural space when a patient has a problem of reaccumulating fluid there (this is called &#8220;pleurodesis.&#8221;)</p>
<p>The bottom line: there are many agents that would be a problem if you inhaled them, but are just fine if you put them on your skin.  The most significant agent I can think of in this category is water. It is easy to fall into &#8220;purist&#8221; ways of thinking, but it is quite difficult to actually live this way, and sometimes even impractical. With my knowledge of malignancy and talc, I have no fear of putting talc on my skin.</p>
<p>Regarding the makeup, I have used both.  I am in my late 30&#8242;s and have begun to accumulate wrinkles around my eyes. I have been a strict proponent of good skin care for years &amp; am loyal to the Philosophy line. I am quite partial to the Mary Kay foundation because it accumulates in the eye wrinkles less and has longer staying power.  I also do not use a cover powder&#8211;I use only the $18 mineral makeup, and I&#8217;m good for the day. I found the Bare Escentuals to look like a cake on my face and be much more difficult to buff with the brush.  I suspect that the talc may be what makes the difference between the two products, as the post above suggests. </p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Mesothelioma-Asbestos-Cure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mesothelioma-Asbestos-Cure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I unfortunately have acne prone skin...and started using Bare Minerals makeup instead of the old fashion foundations in the market. Conclusion, the mineral makeup from Bare Essentual has done it&#039;s job on my skin ... it does not get irritated, flaky ...etc and it doesn&#039;t produce additional breakout as the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I unfortunately have acne prone skin&#8230;and started using Bare Minerals makeup instead of the old fashion foundations in the market. Conclusion, the mineral makeup from Bare Essentual has done it&#8217;s job on my skin &#8230; it does not get irritated, flaky &#8230;etc and it doesn&#8217;t produce additional breakout as the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought MK mineral foundation...my very first mineral product and what makes it different from just plain ordinary loose powder then, with the talc?  Before there was &quot;cornstarch&quot; powders there were tinted powders, just like liquid foundation.  The zinc and mica are supposed to reflect the light somehow so the flaws are less noticeable.  Without that what&#039;s the difference?  I for one am very dissappointed and will try another product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought MK mineral foundation&#8230;my very first mineral product and what makes it different from just plain ordinary loose powder then, with the talc?  Before there was &#8220;cornstarch&#8221; powders there were tinted powders, just like liquid foundation.  The zinc and mica are supposed to reflect the light somehow so the flaws are less noticeable.  Without that what&#8217;s the difference?  I for one am very dissappointed and will try another product.</p>
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		<title>By: KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was undecided about getting some MK eye shadows but, after reading your posts, I have made up my mine not to buy them.  As far as which mineral makeup is best, I am sure it&#039;s just a matter of personal preference.  I have tried several, including the popular BE, Youngblood, Prescriptives.  However, I have found now what works for me. Jane Iredale.  I no longer have breakouts and it&#039;s so light on me, I don&#039;t even remember I have make up on.  It does not contain, talc, parabens, or bismuth.  I don&#039;t turn orange by midday and my pores actually reduced in size since I started using it over a year ago.  It is not the cheapest but it is all worth it, and it lasts a long time.  They have both loose and pressed powder.  I prefer the latter as it is mess-free and fast to apply in the mornings.  If you are torn and would like to try it, I heavily encourage you to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was undecided about getting some MK eye shadows but, after reading your posts, I have made up my mine not to buy them.  As far as which mineral makeup is best, I am sure it&#8217;s just a matter of personal preference.  I have tried several, including the popular BE, Youngblood, Prescriptives.  However, I have found now what works for me. Jane Iredale.  I no longer have breakouts and it&#8217;s so light on me, I don&#8217;t even remember I have make up on.  It does not contain, talc, parabens, or bismuth.  I don&#8217;t turn orange by midday and my pores actually reduced in size since I started using it over a year ago.  It is not the cheapest but it is all worth it, and it lasts a long time.  They have both loose and pressed powder.  I prefer the latter as it is mess-free and fast to apply in the mornings.  If you are torn and would like to try it, I heavily encourage you to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: ruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talc is not asbestos!!  For clarification, please go to this website...http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/996/is-talcum-powder-asbestos.

Talc can sometimes be contaminated with asbestos, which is where the problem comes in.  You just have to find products that have asbestos-free talc!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talc is not asbestos!!  For clarification, please go to this website&#8230;<a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/996/is-talcum-powder-asbestos" rel="nofollow">http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/996/is-talcum-powder-asbestos</a>.</p>
<p>Talc can sometimes be contaminated with asbestos, which is where the problem comes in.  You just have to find products that have asbestos-free talc!</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bismuth burns the face, plain and simple.  About Talc, don&#039;t know, but who here can say they do NOTHING to risk cancer......don&#039;t drink, don&#039;t eat, heck, don&#039;t even breath...........don&#039;t guess anyone can say that......the risk and polutants are all around, the least of which is your make-up.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bismuth burns the face, plain and simple.  About Talc, don&#8217;t know, but who here can say they do NOTHING to risk cancer&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t drink, don&#8217;t eat, heck, don&#8217;t even breath&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..don&#8217;t guess anyone can say that&#8230;&#8230;the risk and polutants are all around, the least of which is your make-up&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammi Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammi Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talc might be safe on the face, but if anything can lead to any kind of cancer, i would not use it. I don&#039;t care if there are facts on how it won&#039;t affect my face, it still causes cancer elsewhere. so no thanks to that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talc might be safe on the face, but if anything can lead to any kind of cancer, i would not use it. I don&#8217;t care if there are facts on how it won&#8217;t affect my face, it still causes cancer elsewhere. so no thanks to that</p>
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		<title>By: MKMon</title>
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		<dc:creator>MKMon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talc/Cancer clarification:

Talc used by women in the genital areas MAY be linked to ovarian cancer, and talc miners who inhale large amounts of crushed talc rocks all day every day MAY have a higher risk for talc-related lung cancer.  There is also a risk if babies inhale large quantities of baby powder that contains talc.  

To sum it up- don&#039;t INGEST talc, and you&#039;ll be fine.  Talc used on top of the skin won&#039;t absorb, and you won&#039;t breathe enough in to do more damage than a coughing fit if you inhale a puff of it.  

To make you feel even more safe, here are some excerpts  from www.cosmeticsinfo.org:

1. Cosmetic-grade talc does not contain asbestos, which is confirmed by X-ray diffraction, and optical and electron microscopy. In addition, the producers of cosmetic-grade talc have established purity specifications to ensure that it does not contain residue levels of asbestos.

2. To help prevent inhalation by consumers, talc used in loose powder products in the United States is milled to a relatively large, non-respirable particle size (&gt;5 Âµm).

If you change your mind about trying Mary Kay minerals, visit www.marykay.com/monicajackson.  Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talc/Cancer clarification:</p>
<p>Talc used by women in the genital areas MAY be linked to ovarian cancer, and talc miners who inhale large amounts of crushed talc rocks all day every day MAY have a higher risk for talc-related lung cancer.  There is also a risk if babies inhale large quantities of baby powder that contains talc.  </p>
<p>To sum it up- don&#8217;t INGEST talc, and you&#8217;ll be fine.  Talc used on top of the skin won&#8217;t absorb, and you won&#8217;t breathe enough in to do more damage than a coughing fit if you inhale a puff of it.  </p>
<p>To make you feel even more safe, here are some excerpts  from <a href="http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org</a>:</p>
<p>1. Cosmetic-grade talc does not contain asbestos, which is confirmed by X-ray diffraction, and optical and electron microscopy. In addition, the producers of cosmetic-grade talc have established purity specifications to ensure that it does not contain residue levels of asbestos.</p>
<p>2. To help prevent inhalation by consumers, talc used in loose powder products in the United States is milled to a relatively large, non-respirable particle size (&gt;5 Âµm).</p>
<p>If you change your mind about trying Mary Kay minerals, visit <a href="http://www.marykay.com/monicajackson" rel="nofollow">http://www.marykay.com/monicajackson</a>.  Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bare Essentials???????Looks great but is not for the person with sensitive skin, acne or rosacea. It is a skin irritant. Also, it will make you itch when you sweat. I also hear their mineral veil and some of their other products contain PARABENS!!!!Is this true? http://www.safecosmetics.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bare Essentials???????Looks great but is not for the person with sensitive skin, acne or rosacea. It is a skin irritant. Also, it will make you itch when you sweat. I also hear their mineral veil and some of their other products contain PARABENS!!!!Is this true? <a href="http://www.safecosmetics.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.safecosmetics.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t use anything BUT Bare Essentials Mineral Make-up.  I&#039;ve tried the others, even Color Science which is 3X the amount of $$ as Bare Escentials and none of them work as well.  Talc is used as a filler and the face does in fact start to look cakey.  With Base Escentials you just get a dewy fresh look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t use anything BUT Bare Essentials Mineral Make-up.  I&#8217;ve tried the others, even Color Science which is 3X the amount of $$ as Bare Escentials and none of them work as well.  Talc is used as a filler and the face does in fact start to look cakey.  With Base Escentials you just get a dewy fresh look.</p>
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